They were not coeternal with him, yet they were foreknown, foreseen, and foreordained by him.
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Gary C. Bagby (born August 20, 1979), who goes by the stage name Foreknown and formerly Foreknown Apostolic, is an American Christian hip hop rapper. He started making hip hop music in 2009, with his first studio album, Ornithology, releasing in 2014 from Humble Beast Records.
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Foreknown was a Christian metal band from Duluth, Minnesota. The band members were vocalist, Sam Dean, guitarist, Alan Isaacson and Seth Stepec, bassist, Noal "Dougie" Johnson, and drummer, Winter Montoya.
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Foreknown was an American Christian metal band, where they primarily play a melodic metalcore and deathcore styles of music. They come from Duluth, Minnesota. The band started making music in 2000 and disbanded around 2005. The band released a studio album, Calm Seas Don't Make Sailors, in 2005, with Blood and Ink Records.
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Since its release on May 10, 2005, And Their Name Was Treason sold over 10,000 copies in the U.S. with little advertising and no media exposure. The album's success helped the band sign to Victory for their following album. The group toured in the U.S. in the summer of 2005 to promote the record, along with other bands such as Caldwell and Orion. The tour continued throughout October and November with Foreknown and Blessed by a Broken Heart as supporting acts.
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Thus, in Peter's case, God would have chosen different graces if those he actually chose had been foreknown to be merely sufficient and not efficacious for Peter's salvation. Other Molinists, including Molina himself, vigorously reject any such antecedent absolute election of Peter to salvation. They insist instead that God simply chooses to create a world in which he infallibly foresees Peter's good use of the supernatural graces afforded him, and only then does he accept Peter among the elect in light of his free consent to those graces.” Feddoso.
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Therefore, the promise of final salvation in this passage does not necessarily apply to those Christians who are living according to flesh. In other words, Paul seems to affirm in 8:28-39 that the corporate community is foreknown, predestined and elect in the eternal plan of God and will persevere to final glorification. This would provide a great source of comfort to Paul’s readers when he mentions the various trials that the Christians in Rome may face. The readers, as individuals, can find comfort in the promises of this passage, but only if they remain members of the Christian community.
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No one is predestined to become a Christian, but rather, as Christians (collectively) we have a glorious future destiny awaiting us.Marston and Forster, God's Strategy in Human History, 93. God has predestined his elect ones "to be conformed to the image of his Son" (Romans 8:29);Klein says, "This conformation to Christ refers not only to the final transformation to occur at Christ's return, but also to the lifelong process of change that God effects in the lives of believers. God determined that those in the foreknown group would become like Christ" (The New Chosen People, 185). to "adoption as sons through Jesus Christ to Himself" (Ephesians 1:5);Stamps, Life in the Spirit Study Bible, 1855. Paul goes on to say that predestination to adoption as sons "is according to the kind intention of His will, to the praise of the glory of His grace, which He freely bestowed on us in the Beloved" (Ephesians 1:5-6).
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The disagreement had to do with the grounds for this limitation. For Arminius, the ground was the free choice of people to believe, foreknown by God, with God predestining people based on this foreseen faith. For the opponents of Arminius, whose views are represented in the Canons of Dort, this efficacy was limited based on God's predestination, without any foreknowledge of human choice. Calvin clearly taught this second view, and it is also the view of Reformed theologians following the Synod of Dort.. The doctrine of limited atonement also includes the claim that the purpose for which Jesus gave his life was limited to the elect - the atonement is limited in its purpose.. For this reason, the so-called "four-point Calvinists", such as the 17th century English Puritan Richard Baxter, reject the doctrine of limited atonement and instead believe that the atonement is available to all who will believe in Christ.
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